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Glenn Beck rumours?

This Fark.com thread is making me all sorts of stupid happy right now. The arguments about memeology (is that correct?) are funny, but the whole Glenn Beck “controversy” is pure gold.


Father_Jack 2009-10-21 02:29:18 PM
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name:
So you are saying its ok to take out an add in your hometown Newspaper saying you raped and murdered a girl in the 90s?

no, because that is slander.

but to ask an open-ended question, “DID FATHER_JACK RAPE AND MURDER A GIRL IN THE 90s?” is protected by free speech, evidently.

there’s a great daily show entry called “punctuation punditry” that calls out the whole “open ended question” sleazy yet legal way to slander. Fox News pioneered it, and now its being used by these guys against their boy.

Having to explain it sucks, but apparently some people just don’t get it.

Ctrl-Alt-Del 2009-10-21 02:45:33 PM
I Like Bread: Wait, I thought it was “murdered and raped”. But then, I guess there’d be no rape since dead girls can’t say ‘no’. Either way, it’s horrible what he did.

You mean it’s horrible what he is rumored to have done. There is currently no convincing evidence that Glenn beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990

However, his continuing refusal to even issue a simple denial of these absolutely horrific allegations does lead one to wonder, doesn’t it?

And the fact that Glenn Beck is now trying to circumvent the US justice system and use a foriegn regulatory body to quietly shut down the website that is investigating these allegations, makes it look even worse.

Glenn Beck, why won’t you just come out and simply deny these rumors? Then this whole sorry mess would just disappear. What possible reason could Glenn Beck have to NOT deny this?

A purely evil tactic. One I’ve successfully employed on a number of occasions – for bad and good, mind you -and wholly encourage the use of it.

Why is it funny though?

tuxedobob 2009-10-21 02:55:00 PM
pd771: daychilde: Also, “by using his tactics”, you acknowledge that those are his tactics. What the hell is a parody, except a satirical reportrayal of someone?

My argument is that the spite in the creation along without any wit makes not fall under the category of parody. I think John Stewart understood this, and that’s the reason he was so against it. Maybe if were in any way creative or funny I’d understand, but I know I’m not going to change any minds on this, so have at this stupidity.

I don’t know, I think it’s pretty funny to see him at the other end of his own modus operandi.

Because this is just too hilarious. Yes it is funny. Turnabout is fair play.

I personally disapprove of Glenn Beck’s socially conservative stance and fear-mongering, much the same way I disapprove of Olberman, Malkin or any other number of political pundits. But the key to their success is that they serve as a sort of Cliff’s Notes for politics to many Americans. Granted, many people need someone to boil it down and summarize the political climate into something quickly digestible. The problem is that the people doing it are ideologically polemic.

The question of whether or not Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990 is interesting because it links the idea of the crime with the name and puts the burden of proof on Glenn Beck. This is the same reason our courts are designed to adhere to innocent until proven guilty. The panopticon does not operate in this manner. There are moral and ethical implications, but those have zero impact on the effectiveness of this tactic. Machiavelli would be proud.

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For the record, we will eventually be going after more like Beck who use those kinds of tactics, and when we don't - it won't be conservatives-only. It'll be whomever uses those tactics. That's one of the problems - our country is so polarized that Beck supporters think this is just about Beck. It's not!Thanks for a good post on the topic. :)Take care,-NameWithheld